Gear Review: Deuter Kid Comfort II

If you’re outdoorsy and want to hike with your baby, a hiking backpack is probably one of the first things you look forward to buying.  I know that’s how I felt! Two kids later, we’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of our pack but there are a few things I think are worth mentioning that I hadn’t considered pre-kids.

I wound up getting the Deuter Kid Comfort II because one of my good friends sold it to me used.  She had gotten it new from MEC back when this was the Deuter pack they carried (now they carry the Kid Comfort III).

Things I love about the Kid Comfort II:

  • The storage is just perfect.  There’s lots of room to put in a few extra layers for baby, water, snacks and diaper changing items.
  • The pad at the front that your baby rests their face on (or drools on) is removable and washable!
  • If you’re looking at all the Deuter packs, this one is lighter than the Kid Comfort III due to the removable sun shade/rain cover (this also means the pack is small enough to fit in a checked suitcase if needed) but the same storage capacity.
  •  The pack opens on the side with a clip to allow side entry. Awesome for getting kids with snowsuits in and out and also great for being able to access the harness for adjustments.
  • It takes no time at all to adjust the shoulder strap height of the pack for different users. Very intuitive, quick and easy!
  • It has a similar design to Deuter backcountry hiking bags which means they are built well and help distribute weight to your hips so it’s more comfortable to carry.
  • The sun shade is very large and provides great coverage for head and arms (you can use a bamboo/light receiving blanket to cover legs.
  • Due to the padded sides all around, the pack does provide some warmth in cold weather.  If you want to up your winter game, you can fit a MEC stroller bag into the carrier for extra warmth (I don’t own a stroller bag to try this with but friends have done it)
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A well used (and travelled) Deuter Kid Comfort II

Things to consider about the Kid Comfort II:

  • I found it finicky to adjust the child’s seat height. This is good in that you never have to worry about the seat slipping down. It does mean if you need to adjust the seat height, plan to do it at home, indoors – not on the trail when you’re in a hurry!
  • Ours didn’t come with foot straps though I believe newer models do now. Best to check before you purchase.
  • The sun/rain cover must be purchased separately with this model.
  • The mesh pockets on the outside seemed too shallow and if the pack tilted, heavier items like a water bottle slid out. They were ok for granola bars or mittens though. Newer models seem to have different pockets which has hopefully fixed this!

Things to consider about any backpack carrier:

Here are some tips that I hadn’t thought of before I had kids and are worth mentioning given the hefty price tag of almost all backpack carriers.

  • They are designed to be used once a baby is sitting independently.  This would likely be around 6 months for most babies.
  • Their max carrying capacity includes gear + kid + pack. For the Kid Comfort II, the max capacity is 48.5 lbs.  If you subtract the weight of the pack (7.2 lbs) and gear/food/clothes (~8 lbs) this means you can carry a child up to 33.3 lbs.  Depending on how large your toddler is this could be anywhere from 2-4 years old.
  • While the pack can weigh up to 48.5lbs, you may or may not be comfortable carrying that much weight. The general rule is that you should carry no more than 30% of your body weight (If you weigh 100-150lbs this is 30 – 45lbs, if you weigh 150-200lbs this is 45-60 lbs). How much weight you can carry comfortably depends on your fitness level as well as the length/elevation gain of the hike.
  • There is great variability in how long toddlers enjoy sitting. Some prefer to walk and be carried occasionally while others are ok sitting an entire hike. This obviously depends a lot on the age of your toddler, how often you go out, how long you’re hiking and their individual temperament.
  • Try it on before you buy it! You’ll want to make sure it fits whoever will be wearing it and this can’t be tested online.
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Baby Bear getting his hike on. Seriously though, I need someone to take pics of me hiking with this pack! I promise I have done it!

Final thoughts

We started using our backpack when Little Bear was 6 months old for summer hiking. It provided her with a nice view and an escape from the summer heat. In the fall and winter, we hiked with her in the pack in her snowsuit. During the next summer when she was 18 months, she stopped sitting in the pack the whole duration of a hike and wanted to walk until she tired herself out.  That fall, I retired the pack as Little Bear disliked sitting for long periods and I found the weight of the pack wasn’t enjoyable (>30lbs all in). So far we’ve had the same usage pattern for Baby Bear.

While I may not have used our Deuter for as long as I thought I would, it’s been invaluable in getting us out hiking with both kids. It was virtually the only carrier we used for hiking from 6 months until almost 2 yrs so I felt the purchase was 100% worthwhile. And really, your mileage will vary in how long you can use it depending on your toddler, their weight and your comfort level. It’s not unreasonable for some families to expect to use it until they max out the weight!

Although I didn’t do any research into other backpack carriers prior to buying, I’m really happy with our choice and would recommend it.  My only regret is we don’t have the newest model which looks like it has some awesome improvements!

Want to do more research into backpack carriers? Check out these reviews of other brands/Deuter models:

You may also be interested in a full review of all the carriers I used for Little Bear’s first two years.

A few favourite items

Whenever I get together with friends, it’s inevitable that someone pipes up with their discovery of a new item they just can’t live without. I’ve bought some cool things based on recommendations so I thought I’d share the last few things I’ve purchased that have made getting out/life with kids that much easier. Hopefully it’s somewhat interesting :)

Chariot Cougar 2

I wasn’t sure if we’d need a double stroller or what type I’d want so I waited until baby bear arrived to see. In the beginning it wasn’t necessary as I felt more comfortable with our BOB single stroller (review) for the toddler and baby bear in a carrier. BUT around 3 months I went out and got the double Chariot Cougar. Life changing, seriously! This is like the SUV of strollers. Yes it’s big and takes up a lot of trunk space but I can fit in two kids, a toddler bike and helmet, diaper backpack, purse, toys, snacks, drinks, an extra carrier, etc… Admittedly the toddler doesn’t like to sit in it much with a very grabby baby but it’s perfect for hauling baby, gear and coffee while little bear walks. I was debating getting the Chariot CX2 since it has a hand brake but I have yet to miss the hand brake at all (we have the CX1 <- review as well so I was used to the hand brake). Best part is the weight is quite reasonable for a double. I highly recommend this if you’re outdoorsy and want one double stroller than can do it all!

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Cover Me Poncho

I was reading Michelle’s blog a while back and discovered these ponchos. I bought them but admittedly they sat around for quite a while until summer rolled around. Calgary’s hot/cold weather swings got me to try them out and I’m in love with them! They are perfect to throw on with leggings or shorts and a tank top underneath. It’s like a really stylish cardigan. And yes, they can be used as a nursing cover too though I find them a bit hard to use as such. But they look so cute that I will probably just wear them as a top long beyond nursing.

Giro Scamp Kid’s Helmet

We originally bought little bear the MEC Genio kid’s helmet but couldn’t get a proper fit with it. No matter how we adjusted it, it would slip back and expose her forehead. We headed to our local bike store and picked up a Giro kid’s helmet. Much better. This one has easy adjustments, isn’t bulky, sits perfect and little bear likes it! Best of all it wasn’t that much more expensive than her previous helmet.

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Little Goat Carrier Cover

I won this carrier cover and quickly fell in love with it! It made spring hiking so much easier when I could keep baby bear in a sleeper and sweater and pop the carrier cover on our Boba. As the day got warmer I could stick his little legs out of the cover or take it off easily. On windy, warm days I use the windproof part. Overall I really like this and plan to get a lot of use out of it in the fall. The only thing I’d change would be to make the inner warm lining polar fleece so the whole things weights a bit less. And did I mention the cover has lined pockets for you to put your hands in??? Awesome!

Bambu Swiss Coffee Substitute

I’m a coffee addict.  I could drink coffee pretty much all day long. But at some point I start worrying about dehydration setting in so I drink something else. Enter herbal coffee substitutes. My mom brought this over to my house one day when she was trying to cut back on caffeine and I was skeptical but intrigued.  A few cups later I was sold. It’s not decaffeinated, it has zero caffeine because it’s herbal. The ingredient list is very odd and sounds like it would taste terrible.  I’ll be honest it doesn’t taste like a nice americano but it’s passable for an instant coffee which is good enough for me. I get mine from Sobeys but I’ve seen different brands in different stores. If you want to feel like you’re drinking coffee all day long minus the caffeine this is a great option!

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ps – I bought everything myself except the carrier cover which I won. All the links are just plain old links I put up in case you want to see what I’m talking about :)

2015 Gift Guide for Outdoor Families

I don’t often hold back on buying good winter gear because I think being warm and comfortable is the best way to enjoy winter.  BUT the holidays always seem like a good reason to replace an aging item or invest in something new.  Since I always enjoy reading what other families recommend as outdoorsy gifts, here are some winter themed items that we’ve enjoyed so much I’d recommend!

1. Kombi Moose Mitts

If you’re a parent of a young toddler and your kid likes wearing mitts…wait, does that even exist?! Surely it must but I’m guessing many can relate to the difficulty of keeping mitts on.  These moose mitts have been a huge help in getting Little Bear to keep mittens on.  They’re most effective when talked up (“Do you want to take your moose hiking?”) and I love that they’re warm and water repellent.

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2. Good quality toddler winter boots.

In my experience, good footwear is key for outdoor toddler play.  While there is a large variety of winter boots for older toddlers or preschoolers, it can be difficult to find a warm, waterproof and lightweight boot for a young toddler.  Our favourite boot is the Ecco Snowride which has a gore-tex lining and is insulated.  While we love the boot, what I would really recommend is going to a specialty kid’s shoe store.  A good store will listen to what you’d like to use the boots for, how much you’d like to spend and measure your toddler’s foot and assess the boot fit. My favourite Calgary store is Little Footprints.

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3. Patagonia base layers

These might be my favourite and most recommended item.  They’re warm and wick moisture away, and while they run big, they fit a large range of sizes properly.  We bought Little Bear a set in size 12 when she was 13 months and they still fit at 22 months.  I imagine they would have fit her prior to 13 months as well.  I love that the top is a onesie so her back is never exposed when she wears a jacket.  There are also extra snaps in the crotch you can open up for more length.

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4. Patagonia down sweater

My husband and I wear our down sweaters year round in Calgary (as do many of our friends) so we thought Little Bear could use one too.  We bought a 2T for her at 18 months and while large, it was still wearable.  It’s thin, warm, not too puffy for car seats, and you can layer under it for colder weather.  To save money, look for last season’s models (we did this) or try to buy it secondhand.

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5. MEC Cocoon insulated pants

We bought these in 2T for Little Bear at 20 months and while large, the cuffs roll up well and stay up.  They are great to slip on over leggings for a quick walk or over base layers for a longer hike.  They’re inexpensive and easier to slip on/off for dry, cold weather.

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6. Thermos Bottle

A post-ski hot chocolate on the way home has always been my thing but now I make sure I bring some, along with mini marshmallows for the whole family.  If you want hot chocolate and not warm or cold chocolate, make sure you look for a thermos with a screw on lid.  If the thermos will be out in the cold (ie not indoors) a good tip is to pour hot water in it, let it sit for 2-3 min, pour the water out and then make your hot chocolate in it.

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7. Tula toddler carrier

I love that this carrier is made for toddlers and packs down into a backpack.  Also, because the carrier is up against your body, it’s warm for your child.  We’ve found that with the cooler weather, we use this more often than our backpack carrier since Little Bear doesn’t like to be carried much and this provides a warm break.

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8. Kahtoola microspikes

We use our spikes so much in the winter that they are now permanent residents of our car trunk.  Many of the trails you’d take a baby or toddler on are at lower elevations or are well travelled, both of which make them prone to getting packed and slippery. A good set up spikes makes carrying babies/toddlers that much easier with no fear of slipping. These spikes seem to hold up to the most wear and tear, don’t slip off and are comfortable.

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Want to check out more gift guides?

Baby carriers for the first 2 years

As I dust off Little Bear’s baby items and get ready for cub #2, it reminded me how many carriers I’ve gone through of various types for all the stages of baby and toddlerhood.  In the beginning, I was pretty clueless as to what I’d need and when I’d need it.  As with my winter gear summary for babies, I thought I’d go through the carriers that worked for us and when we used them.

A well used (and travelled) Deuter Kid Comfort II

A well used (and travelled) Deuter Kid Comfort II

Baby Buddha (stretchy wrap-style carrier)

This was a hand-me-down from a friend which I only received when Little Bear was 2 months old. I wish I had been able to use this sooner as it seemed like it would be super handy with a newborn.

What I liked

  • I was able to get the best “fit” with this carrier, likely because it was so stretchy and it was fairly easy to use once you watch a few videos and get the hang of it.
  • It’s really compact and easy to throw in a diaper bag.  This also meant it was very easy to fit under a roomy winter jacket.
  • Little Bear loved this carrier!

What I didn’t like

  • Because it’s so stretchy, once LB got close to 15 lbs (which was around 3ish months) I felt like after 15-20 min it was too loose as it had stretched out.
  • It’s pricey to buy new.

When did I use it? up until ~3months

Bottom line? I definitely plan on using this again although if I had to buy it, I would likely choose a cheaper stretchy carrier like the Boba wrap.

Trying to keep cool with the Baby Buddha in Las Vegas

Trying to keep cool with the Baby Buddha in Las Vegas

Boba 3G

I bought this carrier before Little Bear was born and only recently retired it at 21 months as she was too big.  Hands down one of the best investments I made!

What I liked

  • This might be the best endorsement: as soon as LB could talk she would ask for it “Boba! Boba mama!”
  • It can be used from birth (sort of – see below) to toddlerhood
  • It’s very simple to get on/off and adjust
  • A good fit for shorter parents (not sure how it fits taller parents but it worked great for us!)
  • Very comfortable to use.  Because of the padded waist belt and the fact baby’s weight is close to you, it’s surprising how heavy a kiddo you can carry without feeling it.
  • No need to buy an infant insert – its adjustable for newborns.
  • It adds some warmth and a wind block for baby.  There is also a hood you can clip on.
  • The purse snap! I loved this feature to clip your purse strap onto the carrier so it wouldn’t slide off your shoulder.

What I didn’t like

  • Although it adjusts for newborns, I found I got a better fit with a stretchy carrier though this be due my inexperience with carriers at the time (I’ve also heard the 4G is much easier to use with a newborn)
  • We reached a point around 3-4 months when LB was too big to be comfortable in the infant position but too small to sit in it with her legs out.  A carrier with a smaller “seat” for baby might have helped or perhaps I just needed some tips on how position LB.
  • Soft-structured carriers with hipbelts and clips are rather bulky.  I liked bringing mine everywhere but it was a tight squeeze getting it into my backpack diaper bag (~20L) along with everything else.
  • It can be hot in the summer for both wearer and baby since it’s canvas and you’re both touching.

When did I use it? From newborn to 21 months although it got the most use from 4-5 months onwards and much less before that.

Bottom line? If you’re a hiking/outdoor parent I’d highly recommend a soft-structured carrier like the Boba.  Other similar brands are the Beco, Ergo, Onya and Tula.  While I am definitely a Boba fan, I think fit is a large part of this so I’d recommend trying them out with your baby or going to a baby carrier specialty store to have them help you choose based on your body type (If you’re in Calgary, Babes in Arms is great!)

One of my favourites, the Boba!

One of my favourites, the Boba!

Deuter Kid Comfort II

We were super lucky to have a friend sell us her Deuter pack secondhand.  I’m not sure what we wound have chosen if we had to pick one ourselves but were very happy with the Deuter.  One thing I didn’t realize before having a baby was that backpack carriers are only good once baby can sit up on their own.

What I liked

  • Very comfortable for the wearer and adjusts easily to different sized parents just like a regular backcountry Deuter pack.
  • The sun shade provides good protection from sun and branches while not impeding baby’s view.
  • Lots of space in the storage compartment
  • Lots of side pockets for snacks
  • For a framed carrier, it’s relatively compact and light.
  • Lots of air flow so good for using on hot days

What I didn’t like

  • While it’s light for a framed baby carrier, the weight adds up.  By the time Little Bear was 22 lbs, I found that her weight, plus the backpack (~7 lbs), plus miscellaneous food/water/gear (~3-5 lbs) was too much for me to comfortably carry.  My husband was ok with the weight but we also were on very easy trails that were <5km with <150m elevation gain.  Unfortunately this would be the case for any framed backpack carrier.
  • I would have liked to see a bigger water bottle pocket on the side as the pockets there were too shallow for bottles.
  • There’s no pocket on the hipbelt (where am I supposed to put chapstick?)
  • A little mirror to check on your passenger would have been nice
  • There are no foot straps – though I believe all later models come with them now.  Not a huge deal since by the time Little Bear could have used them, she was never in the backpack for long.

When did I use it? From 6 months onwards (still using it at 22 months).  I used it a lot in the summer (6-8 months) when it was too hot to use our Boba.  Also, until Little Bear could hike at least 60% of trails, we used it a lot.  Now that she is mostly hiking on her own (21 months) and only needing a ride to take a rest, I find that we use it a lot less as she’s heavy to carry and it’s quite bulky.

Bottom line? Definitely worth purchasing! Though I don’t think we’ll use it for as long as we intended, it was a key piece for us to get out hiking with.

Little snoozer enjoying the backpack

Little snoozer enjoying the backpack

Tula Toddler Carrier

Now that Little Bear is more excited to hike than be carried and winter is fast approaching, we picked up a toddler carrier to help get us through this stage.  So far it’s great as it can be stuffed in a backpack, yet is comfy and warm enough for Little Bear to hitch a ride on cold fall days when she needs a rest.  Once I’m able to test this out a bit more I’ll update the page.

Is there a carrier you couldn’t live without? I’d love to hear what you found worked best for you and at what stage!

How to dress babies and young toddlers for winter play

Winter with a newborn was surprisingly not as hard as I thought (Staying active outside with newborn winter babies).  Little Bear’s second winter was harder as she was ready to start exploring on her own.

Outdoor gear can be pricey so I always appreciated hearing what other families used for their kids and how it worked. In that spirit, here is what I bought and how it worked for Little Bear from late fall/early winter (~8 months) to early spring (~15 months).  During this time she went from crawling, to finger walking, to walking independently.

Warm and snug in her Chariot after a walking in a snowstorm

Warm and snug in her Chariot after a walking in a snowstorm

What we bought

Base layers

  • Patagonia baby capilene base layer set in size 12 months
  • Cheap fleece sweater and pants (from the secondhand store)
  • Whatever cotton socks fit her, layered with my own wool socks on top (infant wool socks are probably best but also pricey!)

A walk around the boardwalk

Out for a walk

Outer layers

The toaster suit worked best when LB wasn’t walking (it’s bulky) and the down bunting was the most versatile and my favourite.  I had a MEC fleece bunting but I found that more useful in the fall/spring and never used it over the winter.

Boots

Hats/mitts

  • Matching hat and mitt set from Superstore. The mitts were a double layer of fleece with no thumb and the hat also had a double layer of fleece, ear flaps and straps that velcro under the chin.

I tried a few other brand name mittens but found the cheap ones I bought worked well given she was never out using her hands for long.

Miscellaneous

I had a small (1m x 1.5m) down blanket from Eddie Bauer that I used whenever she’d be carried or pushed to help insulate and block the wind.

How we used it

During the winter, we would dress Little Bear in her base layers, drive to the trailhead and add layers as needed depending on the weather.

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Enjoying a snooze in her MEC toaster suit

Riding in a backpack/Chariot (no walking)

  • Patagonia base layer
  • Fleece pants and sweater (optional depending on temperature)
  • Wool socks over cotton socks
  • MEC toaster suit or Molehill bunting (both worked well)
  • Stonz booties
  • Down blanket in case it was cold
  • Fleece hat but no mitts (I folded the cuffs down on her snowsuit so I didn’t have to worry about lost mitts)

In and out of a backpack/Chariot (walking as well)

  • Patagonia base layer
  • Fleece pants and sweater (optional depending on temperature)
  • Cotton socks
  • Molehill bunting
  • MyMayu boots & liners (plus Stonz booties to slip on top when being carried)
  • Down blanket in case it was cold
  • Fleece hat and mitts

I really liked the Molehill bunting for anytime LB was walking or playing as it didn’t seem to restrict her movement.  I worried initially that it wouldn’t keep her as warm/dry in the snow as the toaster suit but never found that to be the case, perhaps because at that age she wasn’t in the snow long enough for it to be an issue.

Short walks or playing outside (no carrier/stroller)

  • Patagonia base layer
  • Fleece pants and sweater (optional depending on temperature)
  • Cotton socks
  • Molehill bunting or MEC Cocoon bunting or MEC Cocoon jacket depending on temperature
  • MyMayu boots & liners (plus wool socks if it was cold)
  • Fleece hat and mitts

As soon as LB started walking, we rarely used her toaster suit or Stonz booties as she seemed more stable on her feet when she had less “bulk” on.  I worried that she might get cold, but walking must be quite the workout because she always came home warm.  That being said we were never outside for too long, or in very cold temperatures.

Puddle splashing

Puddle splashing

Other options

Here are some other tips for outdoor gear as well as blog posts on the same topic!

Happy winter playing!  Let me know if I missed any great baby winter products.